tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36118108.post7543764641479266403..comments2023-12-06T00:17:28.519-08:00Comments on Creative Chaos: Can we talk testing without testing philosophy?Matthewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05956714498778698672noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36118108.post-58182959318470283782009-04-10T03:30:00.000-07:002009-04-10T03:30:00.000-07:00Most times when people decry philosophy, I think w...Most times when people decry philosophy, I think what they are really saying is "Can't we just fake it? No one cares whether we actually do a good job as long as we SEEM to be doing good."<BR/><BR/>When people say they don't need philosophy to test, I think they are really saying "we haven't yet been fired for incompetence by our bosses (who also know nothing about testing) so why worry?"<BR/><BR/>This is a critical issue with testing because testing is so easy to fake and there are such powerful incentives for faking it.<BR/><BR/>One of the reasons I no longer post on or monitor the agile-testing group is that the predominant philosophy of testing on that list is that programmers shouldn't have to think deeply about what testing means or what skills are required to do it well. Testing is just programming by another name, so the only thing worth learning is the newest test tool-- the newest way to make fake testing look flashy.James Marcus Bachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09985950531079499844noreply@blogger.com